Plus ca change


Well, it’s nice to know that people threatening violence against critics of their favorite band in the YouTube comment sections is not without its precedents. This is from The Voice, a collection of pieces about Frank Sinatra that originally appeared in The New Yorker during the mid forties:

Sinatra has undoubtedly made his fans tolerance-conscious and persuaded them to champion the rights of minority groups, but on the whole they have not learned to be tolerant of critics of Sinatra. When Ben Gross, the radio editor of the Daily News, remarked that he did not consider Sinatra the greatest singer in the world, one Sinatra fan wrote him that she :would love to take you to Africa, tie you to the ground, pour honey on you, and let he ants come and bite you to pieces,” and another that “you should burn in oil, pegs should be driven into your body, and you should be hung by your thumbs.”


  1. Quin Finnegan says

    Those fans never had to listen to “Duets”. I consider myself a fan, but “One More for the Road” with Kenny G. was just a little too much.

    Still, I’ve made similar threats in defense of Dylan or Van Morrison. Or at least day dreamed about making them.

    Question, if leaving such comments is wrong, do you take that to confession? Or if you take it to confession, is it scrupulosity?

    • Yes, Kenny G was out of his depth on that one, and I’m a fan. But it was nice of Sinatra to let him try.
      I don’t think it is scrupulous to admit excessive attachment to one’s musical tastes to the point of belligerency.

  2. notrelatedtoted says

    Every decent musician is going to have periods that should be forgotten. Some are longer than others. Some are able to crash and burn and then rise from the ashes. Others just get lost down the rabbit hole (Miles Davis). I think Frank just held on a leeeetle too long, which explains the Duets albums.

  3. He was the Chairman of the Boards.

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