The Murmur of Vulgarity, or, Self-Publishing for Bad Catholics

In which Friend of Korrektiv Betty Duffy takes note of a new Catholic author (above)…


  1. Aw, thanks for the link! Hope it inspires someone to read her book.

  2. Cubeland Mystic says

    from her bio

    “she recently moved from a mountain town in Colorado to rural Massachusetts to live on a Catholic commune. More recently, she moved from rural Massachusetts to Atlanta to flee a Catholic commune.”

    Sounds like a kindred spirit. She’ll eventually wind up in the desert. You’ll see.

  3. I should warn her not to start lurking around here, lest she squander her writing time trying to score funnies in the combox.

  4. Well, God help her if she ends up in a community of believers. Especially if they rate themselves.

    Can’t you be a little more bland?

  5. What up, Korrektiv Press? Thanks for the link. I like you guys. Hey, I guess I was only one letter away from being categorized under “finnegan,” eh? If only my great great grandfather had not gotten pissed at his family back in Ireland, moved to America in a huff, and out of spite changed the “e” to an “i.” (“That’ll show ’em!”) The old Irish temper, you know. In any event, thanks for giving me a new goal in life: I now hope to appear again on your site, next time being categorized, hopefully, under “Creepy Catholics” and/or “Remember how we weren’t going to have a ton of categories?” and/or “insert trite but incisive overall point.” Something to strive for.

    • Ellen! Hey! Hi! Hi, Ellen! Hey! It’s me, remember? I sent you the wacky email! Thanks for stopping by! Glad you like our categories and maybe I’ll tell you the story behind “trite but incisive.” Come by anytime.

    • Jonathan Potter says

      Hi Ellen! Hey, speaking of Finnegan, Quin is the eligible (albeit aging) bachelor here at Korrektiv. Everyone’s working day and night on the project of getting him married off. If you two hit it off, you could reclaim the “e”. (Except for the minor detail that his real name is Jobe.) File Under: caution.

      • Angelico Nguyen, Esq., OP says

        Konnektiv: Bad Catholics, marrying and giving in marriage at a time near the end of the world

        • Sorry, Jonathan, but even Bad Catholics know that if you are still single after the age of 30, something must be wrong with you.

          • That was a joke. Of course I just ruined it by saying it was a joke. But you all might not know me well enough to know that it was a joke. If it wasn’t against my online code, I would have added this: ; ). Great. Now I just ruined my joke and broke my code.

            • This place disorients you, like a fever dream. It’s okay.

              • Matthew Lickona says

                30? 30! In my day, it was 25! Ellen, you have broken the seal of the combox. For your penance, you must buy the first round at Gerasene ’12.

                • Has Quin Jobe-Finnegan been near this thread yet? Someone should tell him we’ve seen his future.

                  Potter, why don’t you make sure he’s not dead.

                  • It’s sad to be a widow before one’s wed.

                    (a poem!)

                  • 50% of the Kollektiv have not checked in for a couple of days. Where’s Webb? Where’s JOB? I’m concerned.

                    • Angelico Nguyen, Esq., OP says

                      Webb has probably fallen and can’t get up.

                    • Jonathan Potter says

                      And then I fell off the merry-go-round, too. Cain’t keep up with you young folks.

                      I can’t vouch for Webb, either, but Angelico’s theory might not be too far off. His wife and children will be bringing him cigars and snacks and whiskey, though, so eventually he’ll revive.

                      Today is Quin Finnegan’s day off, so I would think he’d be checking in, unless he is helping Brian Jobe work through the galley proofs of Bird’s Nest in Your Hair.

                  • Jonathan Potter says

                    Brian/Quin/Jeb probably instinctively/mystically knew he should stay far away from this thread.

  6. Nothing to do with me.

  7. P.S.! Soren Kierkegaard and I share a birthday.

  8. Matthew Lickona says

    Welcome, Ellen, and congrats. The real goal, as I’m sure you can see, is to get your name and/or the title of your book listed in the category bar. Looking forward to reading.

  9. Cubeland Mystic says

    Hi Ellen

    I am really digging your scientific Target Audience matrix. I fall into the “Desert Fathers” category so I missed the sweet spot, but my kids will be ready to read it in about 8 years. So I am a potential customer. Everyone should go check out the matrix to see where they fall.

    If it is what I think, I will want my kids (both genders) to read it when they start college. Have you ever read Kristin Lavransdatter? It too will be required reading for the little people before they can leave the Monastery. It is a great story, and a Great Book. I’d recommend for parents to encourage their kids to read it especially their daughters. It could be a good companion to Ellen’s book.

    • I, too, dig the Target Audience matrix, but it looks as though Ellen has left off “Raised Catholics” and “Devout Catholics,” two groups who, more than any other Catholicish bloc, dominate political discourse. They tend to be authorities on the intersection of personal morality and public policy, by which I mean that they are personally opposed to all manner of things but have no wish to impose their morality on others.

      • Matthew Lickona says

        Holy crap, that’s awesome. Regarding the illustration on the side – is that Jesus on the cross actually bleeding? Is that Catholic manga?

    • Thank you, Cubeland Mystic. I’m glad you enjoyed the chart. Thanks for the recommendation! Kristen Lavransdatter has been added to me “to read” list.

  10. Cubeland Mystic says


    Ellen took those two blocks off the matrix when she left the commune.


    The Desert Fathers look really good after partying with “Devout Catholics”. If one is inclined here is a great Saint

    required reading here at the monastery.

  11. Angelico Nguyen, Esq., OP says

    Ms Finnigan:

    Your prose style is so sharp, I’d want to read it even if the ideas you expressed with it were repugnant. The fact that your ideas are so largely well reasoned, well founded, and/or otherwise congenial is icing on the cake. I look forward to reading more, in the book and online.

    Thanks to Ms Duffy and Mr Lickona for the news.

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