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“I wish my mother had aborted me.”

The mystery of suffering.

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  1. Angelico Nguyen, Esq., OP says

    Abortion would have been a better option for me. If you believe what reproductive scientists tell us, that I was nothing more than a conglomeration of cells, then there was nothing lost. I could have experienced no consciousness or pain. But even if you discount science and believe I had consciousness and could experience pain at six gestational weeks, I would chose the brief pain or fear of an abortion over the decades of suffering I endured.

    This scales up neatly from ‘I’ to ‘we’, ‘individual’ to ‘species’, ‘decades’ of suffering to ‘millennia’, and ‘abortion’ to ‘extinction’.

    If I were a thoroughgoing atheist, without even a flicker of agnostic hope/fear that something like Christianity might be true, I probably would want to wipe out sentient life, on compassionate grounds.

  2. notrelatedtoted says

    It’s truly astonishing. We’ve now reached the point where we’re arguing that non-existence is better than existence.

    I read something recently where someone said “why can’t the pro-aborts understand that if you’re pro-life, all ‘fetuses’ have value, regardless of how they are conceived?” But they understand the argument perfectly well. What they’re trying to do is browbeat middle America into saying that abortion is ok in cases of rape or incest, so that the whole argument comes undone. Why else would they care about this exception that accounts for the minority of abortions?

    I thought this election would be all about the economy (and it still might be), but the left is doing its damndest to make it about social values. Front row tickets to the main event, culture of life vs. culture of death. It’s a huge gamble for them, and at times I think they have overreached. Other times, reading articles like this, I think we’re doomed.

    Sackcloth and ashes.

  3. This is a fascinating piece….if I had the chance to debate with her I would have to say it’s based on a series of hypotheticals or assumptions, rather than facts. First off it assumes that suffering has no context or value in and of itself. Secondly it assumes that her mothers life is and ALWAYS WILL BE hopeless. It also assumes that life would be better off without her children. Something she simply cannot know at this time. It’s just a piece based on, I suppose, her own feelings as they are in the present moment. Which is fine I guess, but it’s not an argument….however interesting….

    • notrelatedtoted says

      I’d like to see some data regarding how abortion has improved women’s lives. My gut tells me that most women’s lives are not improved after having an abortion. Rather, it would be more accurate to say that their lives did not become worse as a result of their “choice.” In other words, their socio-economic situation remains largely unchanged from where it was pre-pregnancy. I’m sure someone can dig up some anecdotal evidence, but by and large, I don’t think the reality supports that contention.

      I also think you’re right about the hypotheticals & assumptions, but what makes it particularly interesting is that their argument begins from personal experience. Yesterday I read an article by a woman who got pregnant as the result of rape. If I recall correctly, she had her baby, and is now some big-time lawyer/legal analyst. Both her article and the one attached never draw the obvious conclusion: I’m here, I overcame a truly awful experience, and I’m better for it. Rather than serve as an example or a mentor, they instead want to defend “choice.” “I made it, but hey, maybe you don’t want to bother. Not sure if it was worth it.” If that isn’t a cultural dose of despair, I don’t know what is.

  4. Yes… I had those same thoughts. I mean again she assumes that her mother would have gone on to lead a much more successful life had she aborted her. How does she know that an abortion would not have left her mother even more deeply emotionally scarred? There just is no argument there except so many “what ifs”. I think many women suffer deep emotional scars from abortion that they feel obligated to hide. No saying how things would be if they had made a different choice. I guess I thinks it’s next to impossible to argue yourself out of existence…It’s frustrating I guess because they can’t see the logistical failures. Instead they think they are being so “reasonable” so “rational”. When in fact it’s the complete opposite of logical argument.

  5. Kudos Matthew and Mel. Thanks.

  6. fin-tastic says

    Look at this mind-binding comment on the original article:

    “‘The world would not be a darker or poorer place without me. Actually, in terms of contributions to the world, I am a net loss.’

    Well all I can say is that doesn’t seem true from the evidence of this piece – as others have said, very brave, and I think a unique, stand out piece on Cif. Good luck to you Ms Beisner – you are clearly a remarkable human being.”

    So, the author is remarkable for pointing out that her life is unremarkable? The preservation of her life was worthwhile only because it would advocate for the exinction of more life? Is this commenter being ironic on purpose? (Actually, I’m not sure if this is irony, circular logic, or something else).

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